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Post by StoryGirl83 on Dec 20, 2007 14:29:04 GMT -5
Full Name: Piper Melinda Halliwell Acted By: Holly Marie Combs First Appearance: “The Magic Is Back” Born: 1973 Parents: Victor Bennett and Patty Halliwell Siblings: Prue Halliwell (deceased in Heritage), Phoebe Halliwell (deceased in Witch Hunts), and Paige Matthews-Mitchell (half) Spouse: Leo Wyatt Children: Melinda Wyatt (in Witch Hunts), Wyatt Halliwell (in Heritage), and Chris Halliwell (in Heritage) Type: Witch Powers: Freezing Time, Molecular Combustion Personal Trivia: Piper was born the middle child. In Charmed she ended up being forced into the oldest child spot, but she never quite fit there. In Witch Hunts she stayed the middle child or maybe became the youngest depending on how you look at it. She had three children between the two realities, Wyatt and Chris in Charmed and Melinda in Witch Hunts. She ran her own club, P3, and later opened her own restaurant in Charmed. She can be kind of cynical at times and she prefers peace and quite, though she loves her family very much.
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Jul 3, 2009 22:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by xangelax on Jul 11, 2009 4:34:14 GMT -5
Height: 5' 2"
Facts from Charmed Piper Halliwell is the middle child of Patty Halliwell and Victor Bennett. Piper, growing up, took on the role of peacemaker in the family. This is evident in the many mediations between Prue and Pheobe that she undertook in attempts to bring her vastly different sisters together. Her nurturing ability and warmth are what make her a favorite of many. The many talents of Piper include her culinary expertise, managerial skills, and her ability to run and operate her club, P3.
At the start of season one we found Piper interviewing for a position at a restaurant called Quake. The sudden emergence of her Charmed power saw her freeze the room in the middle of the interview. She later got the job and went on to manage Quake. Throughout the years, Piper has struggled with becoming a witch and not having a normal life. Now the successful owner of a nightclub called P3, Piper has taken on the reluctant role of the oldest child. The devastating loss of Prue still leaves Piper coping day to day. She has taken on more of Prue's protectiveness and is now leading the Charmed Ones to fulfill their destiny. Now Piper Halliwell is a model wife, sister and Mom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 23:18:26 GMT -5
Where did the middle name "Melinda" come from?
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Sept 21, 2019 9:39:26 GMT -5
It's not canon, just something Es used that I liked and got her permission to use. Melinda is, of course, for Melinda Warren.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 11:35:52 GMT -5
Works for me
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 22, 2019 7:48:26 GMT -5
It's not canon, just something Es used that I liked and got her permission to use. Melinda is, of course, for Melinda Warren. Yup. I like having characters call other characters by their first and middle name when they're shocked or angered or surprised, and since none of the sisters were given canon middle names on the show (not even Prue on her tombstone), so that means I could use whatever I wanted, I came up with: Prudence Victoria Halliwell Piper Melinda Halliwell Phoebe Penelope Halliwell Paige Samantha Matthews mainly because I like how they sound together. But when I suggested using them in "Our Screwed-Up Destiny", my cowriter, Primrose_Empath, really liked them since they reflected where Patty was at the time: Prudence Victoria - after Victor when they're newly married. Piper Melinda - second daughter named after the other side of the family - and as StoryGirl (which is how she prefers her name spelled - since she's my friend, I spell it the way she wants it spelled) said, after Melinda Warren. Phoebe Penelope - after Grams, who is now helping Patty raise the girls. (It was never canonically said that Penny was Grams' given name, and I like characters having nicknames, so I like Penny's given name to be Penelope, the way I like Leo's given name to be Leonardo. For me, he's Leonardo Christopher Wyatt. Also for me, Chris' given name is Christopher Victor Halliwell, since it was never said canonically that "Perry" is his middle name, so I can say it isn't. I think if Piper named Chris after someone she never met, she'd give him her own dad's name as his middle name. Another fan, Scififantasychic, used "Perry" as BIANCA's last name in her fantastic fanfics, which Chris uses to hide his identity. I liked that idea enough that I got her permission to use it in my own. But that's just our own fanon, which, of course, means any fan can use whatever they want. If others don't like this idea and want to say that Perry is Chris' middle name - like StoryGirl does in Heritage - that's perfectly AOK with me.) Paige Samantha - after Sam I'm thrilled when others use the same names. If they become fanon for others, that's perfectly AOK with me, so I loved it when she decided to use them here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 11:23:09 GMT -5
This could also be a tip of the hat to Bewitched
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 22, 2019 12:07:57 GMT -5
This could also be a tip of the hat to Bewitched No, that would be if she was Phoebe's daughter. Phoebe's the one who loves "Bewitched", not Patty. When I came up with Paige Samantha, I never once thought of Samantha Stephens, just Sam Wilder. So, yes, it could've been a tip of the cap but, no, it wasn't. It would be totally out of character for her to be thinking of Samantha Stephens. She was in love with Sam and was thinking of him, not someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 17:12:35 GMT -5
I was thinking out-of-universe for the Bewitched thing.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 22, 2019 22:50:46 GMT -5
I was thinking out-of-universe for the Bewitched thing. But you never said that. You made it sound like naming her Paige Samantha was just as much of a tip of a cap to Samantha Stephens as it was to Samuel Wilder. Admit that for Heritage, it would be totally out of character for Patty to be thinking of Samantha Stephens if she named her and Sam's daughter Paige Samantha and I'll believe that you were truly thinking out-of-universe when you made that comment, and not truly thinking that it was done as a tip of the cap to Bewitched.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 23:28:21 GMT -5
I honestly was thinking that it was you, not Patty, that same up with the "Samantha" thing. I mean, we're talking about shows about witches, with Bewitched and Charmed being two of the better known ones. So thought you were winking at those that might have been fans of both shows.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 23, 2019 6:44:34 GMT -5
Okay, but you've gotta admit, I like to keep my characters *in* character and this just wouldn't be.
Now, in one of my favorite fics, my friend Aurora Nightstar had Phoebe name one of her daughters Samantha after Samantha Stephens, which is what you might be thinking. I've always called them Patty, Prue and Penny - the reincarnation of those three and the new Charmed Ones with Patty freezing time; Prue moving things with her mind and Penny seeing the future or past since she misused her powers as Penny. THAT would've been in character for her since it's canon that she's a Bewitched fan, just like Aurora had her name her older daughter Nicole after Cole.
But, no, I *NEVER* wink at fans from another show, and maybe that's why your comment rubbed me the wrong way so much, because you've responded to my fics, so I thought you knew that. Again, winking at fans from another show is going out of character, which is what's most important to me, to stay in character because if you don't, it immediately knocks me out of the story, like what happened with each of Kern's inconsistencies. If a fanfic winked at me for being a fan of another show, I'd immediately stop reading the fic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 11:30:13 GMT -5
I remember Aurora from the Charmed Sons campaign.
That might be it. You often posts stories that your friends wrote. Maybe I read one of hers and thought it was yours.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 23, 2019 18:05:07 GMT -5
I remember Aurora from the Charmed Sons campaign. Was she part of that? I know she loved Chris (although not as much as Cole) but didn't think she was. Could be if you only read the ending and not the beginning, since I always give credit to the author at the beginning. To my knowledge she only used those names in one of her stories, and it was a special one because it was her birthday present to me. I mentioned loving what a certain Star Trek fanfic writer did in her story (basing it on someone else's) and how I wish someone could do something like that for Charmed - so she did. Now that was NEVER a tip of the cap to Star Trek, just a story based on the ideas in a Star Trek fanfic, but I think I'll post that story here anyway. Unless you've read that Star Trek fanfic and recognize what's going to happen (and you don't peek ahead, of course), I'll bet you'll never guess how it ends! [/div][/quote]
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 23:26:11 GMT -5
She was, but only fairly early on. She was even a staff member of the first Charmed Sons board (the Yuku one).
Hey, huge Star Trek fan here!
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 24, 2019 7:09:07 GMT -5
She was, but only fairly early on. She was even a staff member of the first Charmed Sons board (the Yuku one). There's a shock for me - I've totally forgotten that it was originally a Yuko one (or as we called it - the Yuko one). I wonder if that was before I joined Charmed Designation at Yuku. It was Aurora's fanfics at the Charmed Cafe (back when it was the messageboard for thecharmedones.com) ) that first got me to read Charmed fanfics - I thought most of them were going to be GaryStu/MarySue stories like the other fanfics I'd read up to that point. Hers weren't and I was hooked.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 12:06:12 GMT -5
Yep, it was.
Then, in 2005, Yuku was hit by a massive hacker attack, whole boards were virtually wiped out, including the Charmed Sons one.
Feeling that Yuku had let them down, Lisa and Donna (the founders of the Charmed Sons) relocated to another site and set up a new board there (can't remember the name of that site) and we all moved along with it. That board existed until 2009 (it was there that I met Marlena for the first time, as well as Jana and Amanda, whom I'm still in touch with).
After that, the Proboards incarnation was set up and that one lasted until 2014.
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Sept 25, 2019 18:17:50 GMT -5
Do you know the URL for that old site? I'm curious to see if it was ever achived at all. I've seen the old cafe on yuku, so I'm curious to see if I can find that one, too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 18:33:16 GMT -5
Do you know the URL for that old site?
The Yuku one? Alas, no
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 26, 2019 0:17:25 GMT -5
Do you know the URL for that old site? I'm curious to see if it was ever achived at all. I've seen the old cafe on yuku, so I'm curious to see if I can find that one, too. I went hunting and found the Yuku version on the Wayback Machine: thecharmedsons.yuku.comNow that's goofy. I just tried it again and it says it can't find it when I SWEAR it did yesterday. Oh, well. It also no longer shows thecharmedsons.proboards.com. Curiouser and curiouser! But was the Cafe actually part of Yuku? When I first joined during Season Five, it was an ezBoard. The Wayback Machine admits that thecharmedcafe.ezboard.com existed (it doesn't for thecharmedcafe.yuku.com), but for some reason says it's excluded from the Wayback. Weird! At least thecharmedones.com still exists in the Wayback.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 11:10:06 GMT -5
I think it was, but only for a short time.
I think they dumped Yuku after the aforementioned hacker attack, which decimated Yuku boards in 2005.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 26, 2019 17:51:45 GMT -5
I think it was, but only for a short time.
I think they dumped Yuku after the aforementioned hacker attack, which decimated Yuku boards in 2005.
That doesn't make sense. I joined the ezBoard version of the Cafe during Season Five when The WB's website advertised thecharmedones.com - the Cafe was its message board with that horrible picture of the second set of Charmed Ones with Phoebe in the middle, her boobs practically hanging out of her top. It had to be early S5 because I read the spoilers and that's when I found out that Prudence Melinda was going to become Wyatt Matthew. So that had to be 2002, and I didn't start reading fanfics until the day my mom died, and that was 2004. It wasn't until the following year that I discovered Charmed Designation, the only board I saw on Yuku. I was on that for a good couple of years and later, a number of years after I returned to the Cafe, which was now a ProBoard, when my friends and I worked on our fanfic, "The Twice-Cursed Child', I posted it there, too, and that was 2010. So the attack had to come after that. Are you sure it wasn't 2015? Unless there was more than one attack and they recovered from the one you remember before I joined.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 23:26:43 GMT -5
No, Es, the hacker attack happened in 2005. That I'm sure of, because that was when Lisa and Donna relocated the Charmed Sons Message board to another server, because of said attack.
As to when the Cafe became Yuku, truth be told, I'm not really sure. It took some EZboards longer to switch over. Perhaps the Cafe was one of those late boards.
I'm not sure exactly when they made the switch to Proboards. Perhaps it was when TheCharmedOnes.com was shut down.
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 27, 2019 6:51:47 GMT -5
AH! Got it! Unlike you, I can admit when I'm wrong when it's proven.
I'll bet that was when I turned my back on the Cafe and was only at Charmed's Designation so I had no idea it was now part of Yuku. But sincerely I had no idea that it had been hacked. I thought Lisa and Donna changed it because it had become pay-site. Or was that the one they went to before going to ProBoards?
Like I keep saying, they say the second thing to go is the memory and at age 66, I really don't remember the first!
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